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- Date: Thu, 19 May 94 04:30:20 PDT
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- Subject: Ham-Digital Digest V94 #154
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- Ham-Digital Digest Thu, 19 May 94 Volume 94 : Issue 154
-
- Today's Topics:
- (none)
- 9600 bps radio modems
- A question
- HTX-404
- onyone use Mac-KPC-3-Hostmaster??
-
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-
- Date: 17 May 94 10:49:09 GMT
- From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!eff!news.kei.com!news.byu.edu!news.mtholyoke.edu!world!mv!lmr!rapp@ucbvax.berkeley.edu
- Subject: (none)
- To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
-
- 0006429120@mcimail.COM (James R. Hill) writes:
-
- > I need information on basic netrom chip burning. I have all the
- > paperwork on TheNet X-1J Release 2 but they do not say how to burn
- > basic EPROMS. I have sent my $15 to the North East Digital Assn,
- > Manchester NH for their TheNet X-1J network guide but nothing
- > received yet. I'm more than a little miffed at the lack of help
- > by a certain SYSOP on the Northern Calif DX Packet network.
- >
- > Any help on getting started will be greatly appreciated.
-
- James,
-
- I don't know much more than a tame crow, but...
-
- Well, I'm about to do the same thing myself, so maybe we can help each
- other. The reason that there is no information provided is probably because
- it depends upon the EPROM burner that you are using. The one I use simply
- takes an image file and burns it into the EPROM. First, however, I think you
- have to use the editor to set those parameters which go in the EPROM. I just
- got X-1J R2, and haven't looked at the tools (if any) which come with it.
-
- Maybe someone who knows something will join in here.
-
- Larry W1HJF
-
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- Colebrook, NH 03576-0158 CIS 72427,2567 fax +1 603 237 8430
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-
- Date: 18 May 1994 20:29:31 GMT
- From: nothing.ucsd.edu!brian@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: 9600 bps radio modems
- To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
-
- I'm disgusted with the performance of the carrier detect circuits in
- the three popular 9600 bps radio modems used by amateurs - the K9NG,
- G3RUH, and new TAPR modems.
-
- None of these has a good carrier detect circuit. All three use a DPLL
- to discover that there's a data carrier out there, which doesn't really
- work very well. Those circuits chatter; they occasionally false on
- background noise, and can be fooled by interference of various kinds.
-
- The K9NG design doesn't do much about that; its DCD output just
- chatters. If you use it to gate data to the USART in the attached TNC
- or PAD, you lose perfectly good packets because the DCD chattered off
- in the middle of a packet. If you use it to key your repeater TX, the
- radio will thrash all the time because of the false DCD indications.
-
- Sure, in the G3RUH and TAPR modems, additional circuitry has been added
- to prevent the thrashing, and the output of the DPLL is "smoothed" to
- eliminate most of the chatter, but there is still one big remaining
- problem:
-
- They're SLOW!
-
- These things are taking between 50 and 100 msec to indicate an incoming
- carrier. That's longer than some of the packets. Waste of bandwidth.
-
- I'd really like to come up with some sort of better DCD - and it
- wouldn't hurt if it had better data recovery performance as well.
-
- Sure, the right answer is DSP. N4HY will tell you that, and I agree.
- But short of that, is there some approach that'll help?
-
- (Being compatable with the scrambled direct FSK that the current modems
- use would be a plus, but isn't required.)
- - Brian
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 23:10:16 GMT
- From: valinor.mythical.com!n5ial!jim@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: A question
- To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <m0q2MWk-000F5pC@lautaro> plazaip@enlaces.ufro.CL writes:
- >Hello: Does anyone could give any information about the next software:
-
- >IBM PC:
-
- >- Kanterm-PC
-
- I'm the author of KAMterm. KAMterm is a (currently only dos-based)
- terminal program for Kantronics TNCs that takes advantage of the Kantronics
- host mode terminal interface. This mode basically allows you to do a lot
- of things that you can't do in the normal dumb-terminal mode.
-
- If you'd like more information about it, please feel free to e-mail me (be
- sure to put ``KAMterm'' in the subject line---I'm ***WAY*** behind on
- e-mail, but KAMterm mail always gets my fastest possible response, i.e.,
- it's usually only delayed by UUCP delays...and nothing else).
-
- Later,
- --jim
-
- --
- 73 DE N5IAL (/4) < Running Linux *1.00*! >
- jim@n5ial.mythical.com ICBM: 30.23N 86.32W
- || j.graham@ieee.org Packet: N5IAL@W4ZBB (Ft. Walton Beach, FL)
- E-mail me for information about KAMterm (host mode for Kantronics TNCs).
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 18 May 94 23:11:56 GMT
- From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
- Subject: HTX-404
- To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
-
- I just bought a HTX-404 from er, ah.. Radio Shack, and knowing that they are
- made by ICOM and noticing that the battery pack looks the same,
- I asked the GBTC (Guy Behind the Counter) about whether I could use
- my ICOM battery packs on it. He said no, that if you use a higher voltage
- battery pack (for instance a 12 volt one) it "would burn out a little diode
- inside the radio"..
-
- Anybody know whether this is true? If so, it seems like a collosal
- design blunder, especially seeing as how there is no warning in the
- user's manual telling you not to do this!
-
-
-
- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
- 73 de Mike, ax.25net: N6KUY@W6JBT.#SOCA.CA.USA.NA
- amprnet: n6kuy@n6kuy.ampr.org [44.18.0.49]
- internet : mwestfal@silicon.csci.csusb.edu
- "Old MacDonald had a farm, dit didit dit didit dahdahdah."
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-
- Date: 18 May 94 17:04:11 GMT
- From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!usc!nic-nac.CSU.net!charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu!psgrain!library.ucla.edu!news.ucdavis.edu!elroy.ucdavis.edu!szhall@ucbvax.berkeley.edu
- Subject: onyone use Mac-KPC-3-Hostmaster??
- To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
-
- I have a Mac Classic and a KPC-3 TNC and Hostmaster software I may be
- using for VHF Packet. I would like any comments from hams who have used
- this set up..Some questions I have are..Is it fast or slow? Do use a
- special cable from the TNC to the PC? Please add any comments pro or
- con...Thanks for taking time to read this ..Jeff
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 06:24:38 +0000
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!EU.net!uknet!demon!llondel.demon.co.uk!dave@network.ucsd.edu
- To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
-
- References <1bKrj4xQ5ee0055yn@tyrell.net>, <769016461snx@llondel.demon.co.uk>, <9iqrj4xQ5CLG055yn@tyrell.net>
- Subject : Re: Help: Routing with X1J
-
- In article <9iqrj4xQ5CLG055yn@tyrell.net> randyr@tyrell.net (Randy Rathbun) writes:
- >
- >Out of curiosity, what experience do you have with the X1J v2 code? We just
- >got the code here in the KC area and are getting ready to blow new eproms
- >this week.
- >
- Not installed v2 anywhere yet - I have the stuff but I haven't been to
- any of our remote sites for some time. Currently our local network is a
- mix of X1G, X1H and X1J and BPQ nodes, and while they work I tend to
- leave them alone (one site has kept its TNCs running for over 10,000
- hours without a crash or power fail). I will get round to updating to
- X1J v2 sometime though :-)
-
- Dave
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